--- bpepple has changed the topic to: FESCo meeting -- Meeting rules at http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Development/Schedule/MeetingGuidelines -- Init process
bpeppleFESCo meeting ping -- bpepple, dgilmore, dwmw2, jwb, notting, nirik, sharkcz, jds2001, j-rod
* nirik is here.
dwmw2 too
bpepplejds2001 said he was running late, so I'll run the meeting until he shows up.
* sharkcz is here
j-rodHere, mostly
* jds2001 here
* bpepple hands the keys to the meeting to jds2001.
jds2001so there's an incredibly light agenda today
2 features :)
dwmw2makes up for the fun we had last week ;)
bpeppleyeah, I'm all for a light meeting this week.
* jds2001 missed that fun :(
j-rodsorry I missed last week, sounded like fun!
jds2001.fesco 49
zodbotjds2001: #49 (Empathy - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Empathy) - FESCo - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/49
* jds2001 hands this to bpepple
j-rod(pun not intended)
bpeppleThis feature is the same as in the prior releases,  where looking to make Empathy the default IM provided it passes muster.
bpepples/where/we are/
nottingapologies, have to step out for 5-10.
jds2001is there some matrix somewhere that defines what that is?
jds2001notting: np
j-rod+1 if/when ready...
nirik+1 (hope any issues are ironed out this cycle)
jds2001we've got lots of time yet before F12 feature freeze :)
bpepplejds2001: I believe on the talk back page I did a comparison of features between the two clients.  I haven't updated it for F12 yet.
j-rodis there really much to discuss atm?
jwb jeremy J5__ juhp jds2001 Jeff_S jcollie jonmasters jlaska josedamiangarrid jnettlet j-rod johe JukeBoxHero
bpepplej-rod: I don't believe so.
jds2001not atm
* dgilmore is here
dgilmorei need to run in 45 mins to take car for sericing
dwmw2I tried using pidgin for the first time a couple of weeks ago. I fail to see how anything could be worse. So +1 for empathy :)
jds2001dwmw2: there are folks who like pidgin :)
* jds2001 is not one of them, to be clear :)
bpepplejds2001: right, and this will be default for only new installs.
dwmw2there are folks who like to be tied up in leather and have hot wax dripped onto their nipples
bpepple+1 btw here also.
nottingok, back. +1 to empathy
jds2001i see 7 +1
j-rod+1 for hot wax!!!
jds2001so empathy is approved
jds2001.fesco 64
zodbotjds2001: #64 (liblvm - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/liblvm) - FESCo - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/64
dwmw2I don't really see why this is a feature
it's not really user-visible, is it?
nirikI added some things to the talk page...
nirikpoelcat says we approved this for f11. ;)
dwmw2so? I'm sober today
jds2001we did
dwmw2despite the fact that it's 6pm on a Friday
jds2001with almost no conversation whatsoever
j-roddidn't we suggest it be rolled into the storage rewrite feature tho?
nirikyeah, I don't see it on the feature list... unless it got rolled into storage re-write
jds2001well i think ti got yanked since it wasnt ready
nirikah, right... 25%
j-rodI say not really a "feature"
jds2001i asked the feature owner to show up last week....but we didnt get to it
i dont see him on IRC atm
* nirik added his questions to the discussion page.
j-rodunless there's a ton of "now used by foo" to go with it, maybe
nottingso, AIUI, once this is done, the anaconda storage can be ported to use it; it's not directly part of the storage rewrite though
although the storage rewrite was necessary to get anaconda to the point where it could use it
jds2001so im not sure what to do with this.
jds2001we've been deferring for weeks, the feature owner responded to my mail last week, but we didnt get to it.
dearkagood afternoon =)
nirikjds2001: can you ask them to respond on the talk page or try and get to another meeting? and we can discuss then/
jds2001dearka: you here for liblvm?
dwmw2I think we say "this is nice dear, but it's not a 'feature' in this context. So please keep up the good work."
dearkano jds2001
jds2001alright, if that's all on that, that's all i had.
--- jds2001 has changed the topic to: FESCo meeting -- Open Floor
j-rodso are we waiting to talk to the liblvm feature owner, or ?
jds2001yeah, I'll put something in the ticket
jds2001my guess is that since i didnt nudge the ticket in any way when preparing this week's agenda he didnt know it was still on the agenda.
if there's nothing else, I'll close the meeting in 30
near record time :)

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