| --- nirik has changed the topic to: FESCo special session for provenpackager | ||
| nirik | who all is here from fesco? do we have quorum? | |
|---|---|---|
| * notting is here | ||
| j-rod here | ||
| nphilipp here | ||
| sharkcz here | ||
| nphilipp | um not from fesco | |
| * jds2001 here | ||
| jds2001 | we need to gather one more..... | |
| nirik | we have 5 don't we ? that should be enough... | |
| nphilipp | nirik: not me (not from fesco) | |
| * jwb is here | ||
| jds2001 | ok, we're all good. | |
| nirik | nphilipp: yeah, I know... didn;t count you. ;) | |
| * jds2001 just can't count :) | ||
| nirik | how did we want to work this? just do each name on the list? | |
| notting | worksforme | |
| jds2001 | sounds good to me. | |
| sharkcz | +1 | |
| jds2001 | alexlan? | |
| +1 | ||
| jwb | +1 | |
| nirik | +1 for alexlan | |
| sharkcz | +1 | |
| notting | +1 | |
| jds2001 | approved. | |
| kasal? | ||
| jwb | +1 | |
| sharkcz | +1 | |
| nirik | +1 | |
| notting | +1 to skasal | |
| jds2001 | +1 | |
| approved. | ||
| jds2001 | ondrejj? | |
| sharkcz | +1 | |
| notting | +1 to ondrejj | |
| j-rod | +1 | |
| jds2001 | +1 | |
| nirik | +1 on ondrejj | |
| mmcgrath | -1 | |
| jds2001 | approved. | |
| * mmcgrath doesn't even know what we're talking about | ||
| notting | mmcgrath: heh | |
| jds2001 | mmcgrath: shut up :D | |
| pbrobinson? | ||
| nirik | ha. ;) mmcgrath: provenpackager adds now that it's been cleaned out. | |
| jds2001 | +1 | |
| j-rod | +1 | |
| dgilmore | +1 | |
| sharkcz | +1 | |
| jwb | +1 | |
| jds2001 | approved. | |
| nirik | +1 | |
| * nirik is slow with his rubber stamp. | ||
| jds2001 | nphillip (I got this one wrong on the invite)? | |
| +1 | ||
| notting | +1 | |
| sharkcz | +1 | |
| j-rod | +1 | |
| dgilmore | +1 | |
| nirik | +1 | |
| jwb | +1 | |
| jds2001 | approved. | |
| kaboom? | ||
| nphilipp | jds2001: no | |
| jds2001 | no? | |
| nphilipp | no kaboom | |
| jds2001 | no to what? | |
| oh, ok. | ||
| nirik | I only see one commit from kaboom in recent memory... | |
| nphilipp | not unless I've eaten my pea-stew that's en route anyway ;-) | |
| j-rod | nphilipp: can you expand on why? | |
| * dwmw2 arrives | ||
| jds2001 can't honestly say i've seen any work from him. | ||
| nphilipp | blarg | |
| strike my comments on kaboom | ||
| * dgilmore has no idea who kaboom is | ||
| nphilipp | I shouldn't be talking here anyway, just listening | |
| notting | there weren't any followup comments on the sponsors list. | |
| nirik | perhaps my list was wrong...did they really apply? | |
| * nphilipp didn't realize jds2001 talked about kaboom the nick, not the process | ||
| j-rod | kaboom took over one of my packages... mostly competent | |
| but a bit slow to respond sometimes | ||
| nirik | -1 and ask him to resubmit with more info on what he would like to do with provenpacker | |
| dgilmore | -1 | |
| jds2001 | -1, same as nirik | |
| 's comment, i cant type | ||
| * notting falls in line, -1 | ||
| sharkcz | -1 | |
| jwb | 0 | |
| to be different | ||
| jds2001 | :) | |
| nirik | since middle of december I see 1 commit from him... in feb. | |
| jds2001 | that one's denied, come back with more info.... | |
| rstrode? | ||
| notting | +1 to halfline | |
| jds2001 | +1 | |
| sharkcz | +1 | |
| jwb | +1 | |
| nirik | +1 | |
| jds2001 | approved. | |
| nhorman? | ||
| +1 | ||
| sharkcz | +1 | |
| nirik | one of the kernel guys? ok, +1 I guess... but it's not clear how much he's done with provenpackager | |
| j-rod | +1 | |
| dgilmore | +1 if j-rod keeps an eye on him | |
| nirik | I see 5 commits from him... kernel, irqbalance, numactl | |
| jds2001 | approved... | |
| notting | nirik: and two of those are his package, iirc | |
| jds2001 | nalin? | |
| notting | +1 to nalin | |
| nirik | +1 nalin | |
| jwb | +1 | |
| dgilmore | +1 | |
| sharkcz | +1 | |
| jds2001 | +1 | |
| approved. | ||
| ajax? | ||
| dgilmore | +1000 | |
| jwb | god. ajax | |
| nirik | +10 ajax. | |
| sharkcz | +1 | |
| jds2001 | +1 | |
| * jwb kids | ||
| jwb | +1 | |
| notting | +1 to ajax | |
| dwmw2 | +1 | |
| jds2001 | approved. | |
| mcepl? | ||
| +1 | ||
| dwmw2 | +1 | |
| sharkcz | +1 | |
| dgilmore | +1 | |
| notting | the rationale for this confused me, since it was mentioned as part of being in bugzappers | |
| jds2001 | yeah, he's on the desktop team in brno | |
| kasal | and sits next to me | |
| jds2001 | rationale confused me, person doesn't :) | |
| nirik | +1 I guess... | |
| they have about 25 commits recently. | ||
| jds2001 | mjakubicek? | |
| * mejla (here and open to questions...) | ||
| notting | kasal: right, i know who he is, and am +1 to him, just wasn't sure why someone would need provenpackager as part of being a bugzapper | |
| sharkcz | notting: he is packager in his free time :-) | |
| nirik | yeah, that seems unrelated. | |
| dgilmore | notting: i agree bugzapping really doesnt need commit access at all | |
| unless i miss understand bugzapping | ||
| jds2001 | dgilmore: you don't | |
| anyhow, mjakubicek? | ||
| nirik | +1 here... | |
| * notting doesn't know him, so 0. links to his work? | ||
| jds2001 falls in line with the researcher, +1 :) | ||
| mejla | I can grep from BZ if you want | |
| dgilmore | http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Mjakubicek | |
| im kinda 0 | ||
| nirik | a fair number of commits... mejla: have you modified many packages that you don't own? | |
| mejla | nirik: no, I was in the provenpackagers group since about a 3 weeks or so, in that time: system-config-cluster, system-config-vsftpd, gsl, was about to remove rpaths from ginac when I was out of ACL | |
| j-rod | I kinda think anyone we're not all pretty much 100% certain about, it would be good to have feedback from the sponsors | |
| jds2001 | right, you had mentioned doing KDE work, right? | |
| nirik | are you working with the maintainers of those packages? they are just busy and wanted help? | |
| mejla | nirik: not really, most of them just didn't respond for a long time (in the case of system-config-cluster 3 years)...regarding KDE I've done some reviews there recently | |
| nirik: or I needed to fix them in order to get my own packages in good state...like if ginac introduces rpaths in pkgconfig files or so | ||
| nirik: well, for me being in the provenpackager group is mainly about knowing where is the end of my facilities...I'm not going to touch things I don't understand | ||
| nirik | ok, so where are we here? any other votes? | |
| sharkcz | 0 | |
| mejla | jds2001: my sponsor is mtasaka | |
| jds2001 | so where are we? defer? | |
| j-rod | I'd like to hear from the sponsors list | |
| not to say good and proper work hasn't been done, but mejla, I've never heard of ya before today :) | ||
| while all the other names I recognize immediately | ||
| mejla | j-rod: that might be ;) | |
| jds2001 | let's defer until Friday, and nudge the sponsors list for more feedback? | |
| * nirik nods. | ||
| j-rod | worksforme | |
| jds2001 | +1 to my own proposal :) Moving right along | |
| karsten? | ||
| nirik | thanks for providing input here mejla. :) | |
| jds2001 | doens't really need it, he's in fedora-s390 | |
| mejla | nirik: no problem :) | |
| sharkcz | +1 | |
| notting | +1 to what jds2001 says | |
| oh | ||
| +1 to khopp | ||
| jds2001 | +1 | |
| nirik | +1 | |
| notting | (it was that karsten, correct?) | |
| jds2001 | notting: yeah | |
| dgilmore | +1 | |
| j-rod | +1 | |
| jds2001 | atkac? | |
| +` | ||
| j-rod | +1 | |
| dgilmore | though the secondary arch access gives you more than proven packager from memory | |
| jds2001 | +1 even | |
| sharkcz | +1 | |
| dgilmore | +1 | |
| nirik | dgilmore: yes, but is s390 setup ? | |
| dgilmore | nirik: yes it si | |
| notting | +1 to atkac | |
| nirik | +1 | |
| jds2001 | dgilmore: it does, like i said since he's secondary arch doens't really need it. | |
| atkac is approved | ||
| dgilmore | secondary arch gives all packages and provenpackager can be opted out of | |
| jds2001 | jreznik? | |
| sharkcz | +1 | |
| notting | +1 to jreznik | |
| j-rod | +1 | |
| dgilmore | +1 | |
| jds2001 | +1 | |
| xhorak? | ||
| nirik | +1 to jreznik | |
| +1 to xhorak | ||
| sharkcz | +1 to xhorak, he works with stransky | |
| jds2001 | +1 here | |
| notting | +1 to xhorak | |
| * nirik nods. xulrunner rebuilding is not easy. | ||
| j-rod | I can't place xhorak atm... | |
| real name? | ||
| notting | jan horak | |
| jds2001 | caillon requested it. | |
| notting | (not to be confused with sharkcz) | |
| j-rod | ah yes, okay, rings a bell now | |
| yeah, knew it wasn't sharkcz | ||
| :) | ||
| nirik | j-rod: working on xulrunner/firefox/etc in f9/f10 | |
| sharkcz | brno desktop team | |
| j-rod | +1 here | |
| nirik | and thunderbird I guess in rawhide. ;) | |
| dwmw2 | +1 | |
| jds2001 | stransky? | |
| notting | +1 to stransky | |
| sharkcz | +1 | |
| j-rod | +1 | |
| dgilmore | +1 | |
| nirik | +1 stransky | |
| dwmw2 | +1 | |
| jds2001 | +1 | |
| approved | ||
| robert (rsc)? | ||
| j-rod | +1 | |
| jds2001 | +1 | |
| sharkcz | +1 | |
| notting | +1 to robert | |
| nirik | _1 | |
| +1 rather | ||
| jds2001 | that's all that was on the agenda. a few came in late, wanna do those? | |
| dgilmore | sure | |
| nirik | might as well. | |
| j-rod | I have a few as well... | |
| jds2001 | lmacken? (he's cvsadmin too) | |
| j-rod | +1 | |
| dwmw2 | +1 | |
| sharkcz | +1 | |
| jds2001 | +1 | |
| dgilmore | +1 | |
| jds2001 | mbarnes? | |
| dwmw2 | +1 | |
| dgilmore | cvsadmin gives full access to everything | |
| * notting doesn't see the point of adding it on top of cvsadmin, but sure, +1 to lmacken | ||
| jwb | jds2001, wait... | |
| j-rod | +1 | |
| nirik | +1 lmacker, but not sure why | |
| dgilmore | +1 | |
| sharkcz | +1 | |
| * nirik can't type today. | ||
| jwb | lmacken, why are you applying for a lower ACL? | |
| jds2001 | jwb: ? | |
| nirik | +1 mbarnes | |
| jds2001 | +1 mbarnes | |
| nirik | jwb: I suppose he could be removed some cvsadmin and not provenpackager someday? dunno... | |
| notting | +1 to mbarnes | |
| j-rod | seems plausible to me | |
| dgilmore | should i give a break down of the cvs acl structure? | |
| dgilmore | or do people think that they understand it just fine | |
| * nirik understands it fine. | ||
| jds2001 | i understand it. | |
| notting | i understand it. not sure everyone who asks for provenpackager does | |
| dgilmore | notting: i hope you understand it | |
| jds2001 | s4504kr (Jochen Schmitt) sent me mail this morning? | |
| nirik | I see a fair number of commits from them, but looking they seem to be on their own packages... | |
| ah, they fixed some deps in nethack. ;) | ||
| jds2001 | yeah, it was a sponsor request too. I'll forward it on as such. | |
| nirik | shall we just look at it friday as a sponsor then? sponsor should add them to provenpackager? | |
| jds2001 | j-rod: you had a few? | |
| nirik: sure | ||
| j-rod | yeah, a few kernel folk | |
| davej, kyle, cebbert, mjg and airlied | ||
| jds2001 | +1 to all | |
| notting | +1 to all | |
| sharkcz | +1 to all | |
| nirik | j-rod: ok, do they often poke outside kernel? or they want it just for the kernel? | |
| j-rod | I'm +1 to all as well, but... | |
| * nirik is +1 to all, but is just wondering. | ||
| dwmw2 | +1 to all. | |
| j-rod | yeah, mostly in kernel-related userspace | |
| notting | as opposed to the userspace that doesn't run on a kernel? | |
| j-rod | file system utils, X drivers, cpufreq stuff, mkinitrd, etc | |
| notting | (sorry) | |
| jds2001 | sounds reasonable. | |
| j-rod | plthbt | |
| dwmw2 | userspace is dirty and must be punished | |
| dgilmore | +1 to em all | |
| jds2001 | anyone else? | |
| j-rod | that's all I had for the moment | |
| nphilipp | jds2001: I take it my request for sponsor has made it to the fesco list by now? | |
| * dgilmore needs to find lunch | ||
| notting | jds2001: there's a request in trac for drag01 | |
| notting | https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/104 | |
| jds2001 | nphilipp: oops, knew I forgot something in the mad rush :) | |
| nphilipp | :-) | |
| jds2001 | ok, shall we take a vote on drago01? | |
| he doesn't mention what he'd use the access for. | ||
| just that he maintains a bunch of packages. | ||
| nirik | he's done good work from what I have seen... I am +1. Dunno if we should wait and get more feedback from sponsors tho | |
| notting | +1 drag01 | |
| sharkcz | +1 | |
| jds2001 | +1, defintely done good work, I wasn't debating that :) | |
| one more?? | ||
| dwmw2 | +1 | |
| jds2001 | awesome, done | |
| notting | and https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/106 - tuxbrewr | |
| jds2001 | oh, yeah | |
| +1 | ||
| notting | (i think that's all the ones in trac we haven't covered) | |
| +1 tuxbrewr | ||
| jds2001 | i went throught and somehow i didnt see those :( | |
| nirik | +1 tuxbrewr | |
| sharkcz | +1 | |
| j-rod | +1 and +1 | |
| * jds2001 going too fast | ||
| jds2001 | approved | |
| * j-rod just made the mistake of hopping over to #fedora-devel for a sec... I want to gouge my eyes out now... | ||
| nphilipp | j-rod: anything specific or just the general situation ;-)? | |
| nirik | j-rod: ;) | |
| j-rod | some heated debate over the merits of ACLs, getting hacked, barriers to contribution, etc. | |
| much of which descended into the slightly ridiculous | ||
| nphilipp | j-rod: what would the world be without the slightly ridiculous ;-P? | |
| jds2001 | anything else or shall we put a fork in this meeting? | |
| j-rod | oh, I agree there's definitely a place for it... just wasn't looking for some of that right now. ;) | |
| fork it | ||
| * nirik is afraid he would ask anyone wanting to change things to come up with a detailed proposal on how it should all work. Just changing details or not looking at the entire picture is doomed to fail. | ||
| jds2001 | oh yes. | |
| * jds2001 ends the meeting in 60 | ||
| jds2001 ends the meeting in 30 | ||
| jds2001 ends the meeting in 15 | ||
| jds2001 | meetind end | |
| I'll gett all these folks in | ||
| nirik | thanks jds2001 | |
| j-rod | who's on summary patrol? | |
| j-rod | bpepple usually does the log, anyone else able to make 'em up like he does quick-n-easy? | |
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